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if you heard what he said when that gentleman confronted him, he laid it off on harry reid. when he goes back to his constituency, i'll bet he can sell that. my argument is that nationwide there are a lot of independence watching who are not buying this and the gop is looking for an escape hatch and better find it soon. otherwise they'll do fine in 2014 but not be able to win a nationwide election. >> back to the capitol police, pete williams spoke with a number of them today as he was getting more details and said many of these officers are now worried that they will eventually be affected by the sequester. and this just continues for them, living under the threat of another missed paycheck. >> you know, the thought i have on that is that it also causes instability in the marketplace, looking behind capitol hill employees, imagine if you were a business contemplating an expansion or maybe you were an international business thinking of coming to the united states. he would be looking at this and saying we can't rely on this instability. i'm concerned about the intangibles an
if you heard what he said when that gentleman confronted him, he laid it off on harry reid. when he goes back to his constituency, i'll bet he can sell that. my argument is that nationwide there are a lot of independence watching who are not buying this and the gop is looking for an escape hatch and better find it soon. otherwise they'll do fine in 2014 but not be able to win a nationwide election. >> back to the capitol police, pete williams spoke with a number of them today as he was...
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. >> senate majority leader, harry reid agreed. >> i feel positive that john boehner who is basically a nice guy cannot let this go on. he can't let this go on. >> both the president and democratic leadership maintain there is only one way out for speaker john boehner. >> i want everybody to understand this. there are enough republicans and democrats in the house of representatives today that if the speaker of the house john boehner simply let the bill get on the floor, for an up or down vote, every congressman could vote their conscience, shutdown would end today. speaker john boehner won't even let the bill get a yes or no vote. because he doesn't want to anger the extremists in his party. that's -- that's all. that's what this whole thing is about. >> multiple reports indicate john boehner knows the end is in sight and is preparing his conference for surrender. at least on the debt ceiling. the "the new york times" first reported speaker john boehner has told colleagues that he its the deter min -- determined to prevent default and will pass the measure through republicans democrat
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and senate majority leader harry reid says the senate won't accept anything but what's described as a clean bill. david gergen and candy crowley are still with us, our chief congressional correspondent dana bash is joining us from capitol hill. dana, we had thought the house might accept the senate funding bill averting a shutdown of the government and move their fight with the president over to raising the debt ceiling in a few weeks. but that's not necessarily the case right now. what's the latest? >> reporter: just as happens so many times in the past weeks and months and frankly even years, house republican leaders tried to kind of manage their restive caucus and were unsuccessful in doing that. their hope a couple of days ago was to say don't fight on this one, guys. let's fight on the next one just around the corner the debt ceiling. they said no, in fact i'm told because they were being egged on by senator ted cruz saying you've got to fight on this government spending bill. so what's going on now is john boehner is effectively trying to negotiate within his own caucus, trying
and senate majority leader harry reid says the senate won't accept anything but what's described as a clean bill. david gergen and candy crowley are still with us, our chief congressional correspondent dana bash is joining us from capitol hill. dana, we had thought the house might accept the senate funding bill averting a shutdown of the government and move their fight with the president over to raising the debt ceiling in a few weeks. but that's not necessarily the case right now. what's the...
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harry reid can't be scared to send democrats to have this discussion. >> you heard secretary lew, secretary of the treasury talking about how catastrophic it would be if we were to default. are you prepared to refuse to raise the debt limit unless you get what you want on obama care? >> there is no reason to default. in fact, republicans don't want to default. we passed a bill, the full faith and credit -- >> secretary le. >> you're not answering my question. >> he could pass the full faith and credit act that we passed out of the house that would prioritize the spending. and you pointed out right that there is a lot of revenue coming into the government. they forget to tell you about the $2 billion collected every month. >> but would you refuse to raise the debt limit over obama care? >> right now we're talking about obama care as it relates to opening the government and the continuing resolution. 95% of this we agree on. let's get this taken care of and then let's talk about the other 5%. >> congressman king, democrats are now pushing a discharge petition to take this idea of a clean cr o
harry reid can't be scared to send democrats to have this discussion. >> you heard secretary lew, secretary of the treasury talking about how catastrophic it would be if we were to default. are you prepared to refuse to raise the debt limit unless you get what you want on obama care? >> there is no reason to default. in fact, republicans don't want to default. we passed a bill, the full faith and credit -- >> secretary le. >> you're not answering my question. >> he...
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reid has rejected the strategy, and this morning the obama administration came out to say that this is not a serious and responsible way to run the government. interestingly though, they did not say they would veto the bills, so that is an indication that the white house also has the longer it goes on vulnerability. both sides are going the take the casualties and the longer of the shutdown, the greater the risks and the more positive for republicans to put the pressure on the democrats by offering to open up parts of the government. scott >> we will see what develops over the weekend. john harword with the latest out of washington. >>> the other big stories is twitter's filing of the s-1. julia boorstin has breaking news outside of twitter's headquarters. julia? >> well, we just caught the ceo of nasdaq checking in at security in twitters building, and he has the seem, a large team were clearly going up to the twitter offices. i asked him why he was in the neighborhood and why he was here, and he said it is a beautiful day, and he was just around and he had no particular agenda. no
reid has rejected the strategy, and this morning the obama administration came out to say that this is not a serious and responsible way to run the government. interestingly though, they did not say they would veto the bills, so that is an indication that the white house also has the longer it goes on vulnerability. both sides are going the take the casualties and the longer of the shutdown, the greater the risks and the more positive for republicans to put the pressure on the democrats by...
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now harry reid, the senate majority leader says tts dead on arrival when they come back into session on monday afternoon. it is 10 hours before the shutdown. i know you want them to pass it, but let's assume they don't pass it. they are true to their word. what do you do then? >> well, you assume they won't, but there were 79 senators who voted for to end the pacemaker tax. you have the president 10 times this year every month delaying a portion of obamacare. just last week he did it while he was criticizing us for delay. let's have the debate. let's allow those senators in the states they need to -- >> it is a privileged motion and they don't have to debate it. with 51 votes they can throw it in the trashcan. >> he can throw it back. when you look at the american public learning what is going on in this bill, opposing it. you go to louisiana and alaska and you go to these states who are overly opposing it and there are difficult races i think they will have to be pressuring their leader to say let us have that vote. >> assume they reject it as they say they hillary ject it. what wil
now harry reid, the senate majority leader says tts dead on arrival when they come back into session on monday afternoon. it is 10 hours before the shutdown. i know you want them to pass it, but let's assume they don't pass it. they are true to their word. what do you do then? >> well, you assume they won't, but there were 79 senators who voted for to end the pacemaker tax. you have the president 10 times this year every month delaying a portion of obamacare. just last week he did it...
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boehner actually fought for months alodgeside harry reid to get the government to contribute to the staffer's health care. now wants to go back and shut down the government over the very thing that he spent months fighting for. it just exposes how dishonest the entire republican strategy has been. >> exactly. the reporting there was pretty extraordinary because it's even worse than you thought. and it goes to your point, krystal, there is no strategy here. there isn't a thing that's being fought for. the president alluded to this when he said i worked with you guys on cutting the deficit because i thought that's what you cared about. we did it. we've got a bill on the floor there to continue to do the sequester cuts and you don't support it because it was allal tear yor motives anyway. >> there is a strategy, that is winning. boehner has made it clear despite opposition to the shutdown and the republicans for the most part getting blame for this, compromise is seen as preemptive surrender and he's not ready to thrown in the towel. you have to remember, the 205 republicans in the house, they d
boehner actually fought for months alodgeside harry reid to get the government to contribute to the staffer's health care. now wants to go back and shut down the government over the very thing that he spent months fighting for. it just exposes how dishonest the entire republican strategy has been. >> exactly. the reporting there was pretty extraordinary because it's even worse than you thought. and it goes to your point, krystal, there is no strategy here. there isn't a thing that's being...
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so harry reid controls the senate. the president controls the agenda. he can go in the rose garden and the people around him. as we all know, the medical device tax is crushing businesses. eighty senators already want to get rid of it. there are changes that absolutely positively need to be made. neil: but they're not doing it. it's close. now they can't do it, now they're not even entertaining one adjustment for. that is kind of weird. >> listen, you need to people that tango perry gave to sit down a room and hammer things out. the fact that the president is not even negotiating to the democrats are not coming to the table. dog and pony show with the republican showing up and no one across from him. everyone is to start acting like adults. they need to solve the people's business. that is what people send their leaders there do, get together and come up with common-sense solutions. that is with tip o'neill and ronald reagan did. neil: and nell. polls mean nothing, but the sentiment right now is that republicans are getting certainly the shorter end of
so harry reid controls the senate. the president controls the agenda. he can go in the rose garden and the people around him. as we all know, the medical device tax is crushing businesses. eighty senators already want to get rid of it. there are changes that absolutely positively need to be made. neil: but they're not doing it. it's close. now they can't do it, now they're not even entertaining one adjustment for. that is kind of weird. >> listen, you need to people that tango perry gave...
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with time running out, the bill goes back to the senate where harry reid calls the gop bill pointless. even if it passes the senate and gets to the president's desk, he will veto it. the senate doesn't return to work until tomorrow moerk, leaving one day to reach an agreement and avoid a government shut down. >> charles: thank you. experts looking into the deaths of 19 firefighters battling a juep wildfire in arizona have issued their report. they cite a number of issues. chief among them, improperly programmed radios that blocked communications with the men just before flames overtook them. >> ended a career pitching a complete game against the houston astros last night. andy pettit who was 41, and a 2-1 victory. >> thousands of people have convergeed on pierce nebraska this weekend. to bid to a large crop of vintage chevys. they belong to a dealer who had new and used cars in a warehouse and on his farm. >> stormy in the midwest, cooler in the mid-section, and a beautiful fall day in the east that continues in the week ahead as we pation into october with more showers, breezy in the
with time running out, the bill goes back to the senate where harry reid calls the gop bill pointless. even if it passes the senate and gets to the president's desk, he will veto it. the senate doesn't return to work until tomorrow moerk, leaving one day to reach an agreement and avoid a government shut down. >> charles: thank you. experts looking into the deaths of 19 firefighters battling a juep wildfire in arizona have issued their report. they cite a number of issues. chief among...
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senate majority leader harry reid saying democrats will kill that proposal later today obama, of course, has said he will not let the law be gutted and the exchanges are still on schedule to open on tuesday. now something else to think about a lot here is the federal workers. we're talking about 800,000 federal workers that would end up being furloughed, they would end up not being paid. they would have to report on tuesday but after about four hours, if they are not essential employees, they would be sent home. we'll have much more on this story for you this morning. on capitol hill, melissa mollet, news 4. >>> it is now 5:04. listen to this, as many as 700,000 workers in our area could take some financial hit if the government shuts down. that's according to "the washington post." one economist says about 60% of the 377,000 local federal workers could be forced to stay home. government contractors will also be hurt. 20% will be affected. stay with news 4 as we tick down the hours until the shutdown deadline at midnight and head to nbcwashington.com for ten ways a government closure co
senate majority leader harry reid saying democrats will kill that proposal later today obama, of course, has said he will not let the law be gutted and the exchanges are still on schedule to open on tuesday. now something else to think about a lot here is the federal workers. we're talking about 800,000 federal workers that would end up being furloughed, they would end up not being paid. they would have to report on tuesday but after about four hours, if they are not essential employees, they...
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senate majority leader harry reid says democrats won't change the three-year-old health care law as a ransom to reopen the government. >>> more bay area residents are feeling the impact from the shutdown, the latest having to do with canceled weddings. weddings have been canceled for china beach and the muir beach overlook. a ceremony planned for this weekend at the maritime museum had to be relocated creating challenges for those behind the scenes. >> we kind of have to redesign a little bit the food to make it work in a closet. >> yeah. >> because that's the size of our kitchen there. >> meantime, the cliff house served its last meals last night. the building is a national park property. its website reads closed as of thursday due to federal shutdown. it's not clear how it stayed open the first two days of the shutdown. and stay with abc 7 news for the latest developments on the government shutdown on air and online at abc7news.com including a list of agencies closed. you can get breaking news updates at any time by following us on twitter. >>> california's new health insurance exch
senate majority leader harry reid says democrats won't change the three-year-old health care law as a ransom to reopen the government. >>> more bay area residents are feeling the impact from the shutdown, the latest having to do with canceled weddings. weddings have been canceled for china beach and the muir beach overlook. a ceremony planned for this weekend at the maritime museum had to be relocated creating challenges for those behind the scenes. >> we kind of have to redesign...
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the president would stay exactly where he is, harry reid stay where they are and wait for the k. what they want is a clean cr as if cleanliness is next to godliness and in and of itself it's a wonderful thing. what they want is to humiliate the republicans and to cause them to walk back and concede everything. but the presence of the debt ceiling is what is saving grace from the gop point of view. obama can't allow it. the more we move away from the closing of the government, it continues, but it will have less effect. it's very ominous for the president, the approach. i suspect that if the shutdown continues into the end of next week, you'll see movement from the democrats because that will be a catastrophe for them politically apart from what it does to the country. >> the president has made an enormous concession that no one has noted. he keeps insisting i want a clean continuing -- which means i want the sequester to continue. the sequester for all of the many detractors of john boehner has a huge achievement for those who want to shrink government spendi spending. >>> we'll
the president would stay exactly where he is, harry reid stay where they are and wait for the k. what they want is a clean cr as if cleanliness is next to godliness and in and of itself it's a wonderful thing. what they want is to humiliate the republicans and to cause them to walk back and concede everything. but the presence of the debt ceiling is what is saving grace from the gop point of view. obama can't allow it. the more we move away from the closing of the government, it continues, but...
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harry reid and the democrats believe that the house needs to get the message that the senate will not agree with the plan they have passed in the early morning hours today. so by coming in at their usual time on a monday at 2:00 in the afternoon, they will then make a move to simply reject what the house has done. that triggers yet another volley. the house will get one more chance to pass some kind of a continuing funding for the government. but the senate will say, make no attempt to change the health care law. so that's where we're at. sources do tell me the house will come up with some kind of an alternative, but they won't discuss publicly yet what that could be. they do want to let the senate play out. so we've got some steps to follow still to come, alex. >> okay. can we look ahead to the debt ceiling, which needs to be raised by october 17th? that's two short weeks from thursday. how does this spending bill and the pending shutdown affect that? >> well, there is a link, especially in terms of the move. we've got just over two weeks before the government runs out of its borrowi
harry reid and the democrats believe that the house needs to get the message that the senate will not agree with the plan they have passed in the early morning hours today. so by coming in at their usual time on a monday at 2:00 in the afternoon, they will then make a move to simply reject what the house has done. that triggers yet another volley. the house will get one more chance to pass some kind of a continuing funding for the government. but the senate will say, make no attempt to change...
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reid from appointing budget negotiators so they couldn't have that budget negotiation. and as a result what they decided to do instead was drive the country to the edge of this cliff and they thought they could get, by doing that, these demands that they placed on the president which you can never get in a normal negotiation. could get, by doing that, these demands that they placed on the president which you can never get in a normal negotiation. >> here's the situation. we are where we are. >> yes, we are. >> that has failed, the government has shut down. at some stage there has to be negotiation and settlement. what is it likely to be? >> well, two things. first of all, we should pass right now the bill that's in the house. and again, let's just have a vote on the bill. i mean i think everyone, republicans and democrats should agree that the people's house should be able to have a vote on the bill. i believe that would go straight to the president's desk and have the government functioning again. so we should do that. then we should sit down and work on the budget, wh
reid from appointing budget negotiators so they couldn't have that budget negotiation. and as a result what they decided to do instead was drive the country to the edge of this cliff and they thought they could get, by doing that, these demands that they placed on the president which you can never get in a normal negotiation. could get, by doing that, these demands that they placed on the president which you can never get in a normal negotiation. >> here's the situation. we are where we...
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this is harry reid shutdown, because he thinks it benefits democrats politically. >> reporter: but a growing number of republican moderates are calling for their party to open up the government with no strings attached, arguing the health care law is a nonstarter with democrats. >> there's one thing you must do, and that is fund the government. >> reporter: the first member of the tea party defected, telling "bloomberg news," we need to move on. analysts warn the effect on republicans could last well beyond this impact. >> it could hurt them in primaries, make it tougher for them to have a singular message against democrats come fall 2014. >> reporter: but there are also perils for president obama, who insists he won't negotiate right now. >> i think even some democrats think the line of "we won't nosht" is not one he will be able to stay with much longer. >> reporter: according to recent polls, president obama has seen some of his lowest approval ratings in two years. it's likely we won't see much progress until october 17th when the nation runs out of money to pay its bills. lester
this is harry reid shutdown, because he thinks it benefits democrats politically. >> reporter: but a growing number of republican moderates are calling for their party to open up the government with no strings attached, arguing the health care law is a nonstarter with democrats. >> there's one thing you must do, and that is fund the government. >> reporter: the first member of the tea party defected, telling "bloomberg news," we need to move on. analysts warn the...
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it is because -- harry reid and john boehner have spoken by phone and there you go. apparently you have senator reid telling mr. bane their -- boehn wants the government open first and then they can start larger negotiations on the substantive budget agreement. it has been reported already that the president is meeting with congressional leaders at 5:30 p.m. this evening at the white house. at least they are talking. reid and boehner speaking by phone. the conversation described right there by senator reid as cordial. we will continue to follow that story. coming up, we are going to discuss the latest out of d.c. as the president meets with business leaders. what's he telling them? what is he saying to them? cht so ally bank really has no hidden fees on savings accounts? no hidden fees. it'just that i'm worried about you know "hidden things." ok, why's that? well uhhh... hey daddy, what's your job? daddy's a uhh florist. are you really a florist? dad, why are there shovels in the trunk? there's no shovels in my trunk. i see shovels... you don't see no shovels. just a
it is because -- harry reid and john boehner have spoken by phone and there you go. apparently you have senator reid telling mr. bane their -- boehn wants the government open first and then they can start larger negotiations on the substantive budget agreement. it has been reported already that the president is meeting with congressional leaders at 5:30 p.m. this evening at the white house. at least they are talking. reid and boehner speaking by phone. the conversation described right there by...
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senate majority leader harry reid says democrats will kill that proposal today. the exchange is open tuesday. the president will not allow his plan to be gutted. on capitol hill, melissa mollet, news 4. >>> and we have sun rise at 7:03. temperatures now in the 40s and 50s quickly warming into the upper 70s this afternoon. feeling like summertime through much of the week ahead with afternoon highs reaching the 80s. then over the weekend increasing clouds, might get some showers on sunday afternoon. but that's the only time we're going to have rain here in the next seven days. danella, is traffic getting stupid? >> it is. and, unfortunately, look at this, tom. the orange line dealing with another problem. now a disabled train at did you know loring metro station causing more delays. on the inner loop of the beltway, once you get closer to route 50, still seeing a crash there. heavy delays from the interchange all the way to the dulles toll road. aaron and eun? >> thank you, danella. of that is ne"news 4 today." that you for starting your day with us. >> the "today"
senate majority leader harry reid says democrats will kill that proposal today. the exchange is open tuesday. the president will not allow his plan to be gutted. on capitol hill, melissa mollet, news 4. >>> and we have sun rise at 7:03. temperatures now in the 40s and 50s quickly warming into the upper 70s this afternoon. feeling like summertime through much of the week ahead with afternoon highs reaching the 80s. then over the weekend increasing clouds, might get some showers on...
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. >> harry reid will not negotiate with john boehner. the president will not meet with john boehner. >> the president refuses to compromise on anything. >> you don't get resolution unless people sit at the table and try to bridge these divides. >> the bridge! it's a [ bleep ] law! i don't understand this! >> welcome back to "hardball." time for the sideshow. last night jon stewart captured the absurdity of the republicans' demands. >> did you see the giants game on sunday? okay, they lost 31-7. and you know what the giants didn't say after that game? if you don't give us 25 more points by midnight on monday, we will shut down the [ bleep ] nfl. they didn't say that. this is not a game of chicken. this is when someone is driving to work and there's a car coming directly at them in their lane. that's not a game of chicken. that's an [ bleep ] causing a head-on collision. let me see if i can put this another way for house republicans. >> you get nothing! you lose! good day, sir! >> gene wilder. and what's in a name? when it comes to obama c
. >> harry reid will not negotiate with john boehner. the president will not meet with john boehner. >> the president refuses to compromise on anything. >> you don't get resolution unless people sit at the table and try to bridge these divides. >> the bridge! it's a [ bleep ] law! i don't understand this! >> welcome back to "hardball." time for the sideshow. last night jon stewart captured the absurdity of the republicans' demands. >> did you see...
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. >> reporter: but senate majority leader harry reid said it is too late for that. >> we have a good day for anarchists. why? because the government is closed. >> reporter: there's a growing chorus among northeast republicans that the house needs to cave. a dozen came out to say put up a bill that gets the government up and running and ignores obama care. congressman peter king said there is enough support in the house to pass it. >> i think the shutdown is a bad idea and i want a clean cr. >> reporter: it is unlikely that speaker boehner will allow the house to vote on that. conservatives are insisting on a hard line and john and diana, for right now they are getting their way. >> unbelievable. karen, why isn't speaker boehner bringing a measure to the floor? >> it is simple. he wants to keep his job at this point. if he were to put that on the floor it would pass. there wouldn't be enough votes to join with the democrats to get that clean funding bill to get the government up and running but he would face a revolt from those couple dozen tea party members, the ultraconservatives, w
. >> reporter: but senate majority leader harry reid said it is too late for that. >> we have a good day for anarchists. why? because the government is closed. >> reporter: there's a growing chorus among northeast republicans that the house needs to cave. a dozen came out to say put up a bill that gets the government up and running and ignores obama care. congressman peter king said there is enough support in the house to pass it. >> i think the shutdown is a bad idea...
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they're calling it now harry reid's shutdown. if he's the main messenger on the side. the president is about to come out some time in the next couple of minutes. danielle, he will talk to the american people about the very real impact this is having. what does he say and can anything he says change the equation? >> you know, i think the president going and showing a real-world campbell,hamp exampl business getting hurt by the shutdown can't do anything, but help the case of the president and the democrats and ted cruz, you know, he's a smart man. he's a senator. it's really hard to take him seriously after what we've seen this past week. so that's all i have to say about ted cruz, but back to what the president has to say, again, i think you see him and other members of the administration talking to real people who are being hurt by this, and i think sometimes especially inside the beltway and especially republicans, they think this shutdown isn't going to hurt many people. you've heard republicans say it's not that big a deal. talk to my friends who are wondering how
they're calling it now harry reid's shutdown. if he's the main messenger on the side. the president is about to come out some time in the next couple of minutes. danielle, he will talk to the american people about the very real impact this is having. what does he say and can anything he says change the equation? >> you know, i think the president going and showing a real-world campbell,hamp exampl business getting hurt by the shutdown can't do anything, but help the case of the president...
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. >> this is harry reid's shutdown because he want a shutdown. >> bill: we will talk with a senator who was at the capital hill meeting. >> really waiting for killing o'reilly? when is that coming out? >> bill: also, the pinheads of the week, some very interesting choices tonight. >> bill: caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. >> bill: hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. another violent episode making america look bad that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. she did not have a gun. she had a car. 34-year-old miriam carrie a dental hygienist and unwed mother tried to crash through a white house barrier yesterday. reports say ms. carrie believe barack obama was stocking her she had a history of medical problems. after a wild chase and thenned on the grounds of the capitol building ms. carrie was shot dead by cops. her 1-year-old daughter was also in the car is unharmed. now, like the gunman in the navy yard shooting a few weeks ago, ms. carrie was obviously mentally ill. it is estimated that a whopping 26% of am
. >> this is harry reid's shutdown because he want a shutdown. >> bill: we will talk with a senator who was at the capital hill meeting. >> really waiting for killing o'reilly? when is that coming out? >> bill: also, the pinheads of the week, some very interesting choices tonight. >> bill: caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. >> bill: hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. another violent episode...
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reid from appointing budget negotiators so they couldn't have that budget negotiation. and as a result what they decided to do instead was drive the country to the edge of this cliff and they thought they could get, by doing that, these demands that they placed on the president which you can never get in a normal negotiation. >> here's the situation. we are where we are. >> yes, we are. >> that has failed, the government has shut down. at some stage there has to be negotiation and settlement. what is it likely to be? >> well, two things. first of all, we should pass right now the bill that's in the house. and again, let's just have a vote on the bill. i mean i think everyone, republicans and democrats should agree that the people's house should be able to have a vote on the bill. i believe that would go straight to the president's desk and have the government functioning again. so we should do that. then we should sit down and work on the budget, which as i've said we've tried to do for many, many months. back in april i introduced a resolution calling upon the speaker
reid from appointing budget negotiators so they couldn't have that budget negotiation. and as a result what they decided to do instead was drive the country to the edge of this cliff and they thought they could get, by doing that, these demands that they placed on the president which you can never get in a normal negotiation. >> here's the situation. we are where we are. >> yes, we are. >> that has failed, the government has shut down. at some stage there has to be negotiation...
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reid, which leaves you with only 37 hours. just 37 hours to get your fill of the panda cam. go on and overdose on the cuteness injection that is the panda cam while you still can. because this might be the last you see of those black and white balls of fur for the foreseeable future. nerdland's favorite piece of viral video could just be one of the many casualties of congress' failure to avert a government shutdown by tuesday at 12:01 a.m. the cam could go dark when the national zoo is forced to close its doors to the public. doors to work would also be closed for a large number of civilian military employees as well as irs, national park service workers. now, those doors will stay open for active-duty military personnel, but they won't be getting paid for their service until congress can get a new bill passed. meanwhile, the members of congress who caused the whole fiasco will still be getting their regular paychecks. the staffers who work for them considered nonessential government employees probably won't. they're among the
reid, which leaves you with only 37 hours. just 37 hours to get your fill of the panda cam. go on and overdose on the cuteness injection that is the panda cam while you still can. because this might be the last you see of those black and white balls of fur for the foreseeable future. nerdland's favorite piece of viral video could just be one of the many casualties of congress' failure to avert a government shutdown by tuesday at 12:01 a.m. the cam could go dark when the national zoo is forced...
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. >> should the presidentismply call if john boehner, forget about harry reid, nancy pelosi, forget about mitch mcconnell. it really is the president and john boehner. they have to work this out. shu he just call in john boehner and say, mr. speaker, we've got to figure this out. there are so many people suffering right now. and if this debt ceiling isn't raised, it's going to be potentially another deep recession for the entire economy. >> the consequences are very great if the debt ceiling isn't raised. i predict it will be raised. the speaker has said he didn't want to see us go into default he is the president. he doesn't have to worry about getting re-elected. it's his second term shouldn't he just do what lbj might have done or ronald reagan might have done, take charge of this crisis. >> times are different. >> why? >> because all these outside factor hess i talked about. so you know, all i can tell you is the president has to be personally engaged all the time, 24 hours a day. he's the only one that speaks for all americans. it also requires the leadership of speaker boehner and t
. >> should the presidentismply call if john boehner, forget about harry reid, nancy pelosi, forget about mitch mcconnell. it really is the president and john boehner. they have to work this out. shu he just call in john boehner and say, mr. speaker, we've got to figure this out. there are so many people suffering right now. and if this debt ceiling isn't raised, it's going to be potentially another deep recession for the entire economy. >> the consequences are very great if the...
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harry reid said that was a nonstarter, the white house said that's a nonstarter. house republicans have been meeting this afternoon. they're considering an offering and some republicans in the senate have already offered mini crs designed to extend government funding for certain favored programs. the white house is not enthusiastic about that. democrats say that's a nonstarter and president obama came out into the rose garden and tried to place the blame squarely on the republicans. >> this republican shutdown did not have to happen. but i want every american to understand why it did happen. republicans in the house of representatives refused to fund the government unless we de-funded or dismantled the affordable care act. they've shut down the government over an ide crusade to nyffordable he iurce milliof americans. in other words, they demanded ransom just for doing their job. >> now, democrats are confident they are winning this fight in public opinion because they're united, republicans are divided, we have seen a slight amount of evidence today. we saw one me
harry reid said that was a nonstarter, the white house said that's a nonstarter. house republicans have been meeting this afternoon. they're considering an offering and some republicans in the senate have already offered mini crs designed to extend government funding for certain favored programs. the white house is not enthusiastic about that. democrats say that's a nonstarter and president obama came out into the rose garden and tried to place the blame squarely on the republicans. >>...
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. >> senate majority leader harry reid says the best way to make sure veterans get their benefits is to pass a clean continuing resolution that funds the whole government. >> the joint resolution. >> he has vowed to block the house bill passed today that protects veterans. what reid calls republican piecemeal legislation. >> what right do they have to pick and choose what passionate of government is going to be funded? >> at this point the real impact for veterans already suffering from backlog claims is the stress of the unknown, bret? >> bret: jennifer griffin live at the pentagon. jennifer, thank you. by the way, answering senator reid, some republicans said it is the house's job to pick what should be funded under the constitution. a former surgeon who criticized president obama's leadership and healthcare law in front of the president in february claims he was targeted by the irs. dr. ben carson says he was audited for the first time in his life, only a few months after that speech. the irs found no wrongdoing. you just heard it here. what the treasury secretary says about a sho
. >> senate majority leader harry reid says the best way to make sure veterans get their benefits is to pass a clean continuing resolution that funds the whole government. >> the joint resolution. >> he has vowed to block the house bill passed today that protects veterans. what reid calls republican piecemeal legislation. >> what right do they have to pick and choose what passionate of government is going to be funded? >> at this point the real impact for veterans...
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nancy pelosi and harry reid came out a few minutes later and all too happy to take questions and linger and blame republicans for their unwillingness to give up their demands to negotiate obama care as part of reopening the government and negotiating spending cuts. that's the only deal. >> bill: what do you think though, cammeron? look, they both say the other won't negotiate. i mean, -- >> -- dead in the water. nothing happened today. and we are no close tore reopening the government. it's not going to happen this week. it may spill into next week. then we are beginning to push that middle of the month october 17th deadline. republicans think that is going to create some sort of pressure that will inspire democrats to compromise. democrats, the president, and the democratic leadership and the rank and file say for a month they are not going to negotiate period. clearly democrats got republicans cornered and not likely to give them any sort of mercy by offering a compromise. >> bill: i think the republicans, rosen, have offered some compromises, but then the reply back from the presiden
nancy pelosi and harry reid came out a few minutes later and all too happy to take questions and linger and blame republicans for their unwillingness to give up their demands to negotiate obama care as part of reopening the government and negotiating spending cuts. that's the only deal. >> bill: what do you think though, cammeron? look, they both say the other won't negotiate. i mean, -- >> -- dead in the water. nothing happened today. and we are no close tore reopening the...
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. >> with speaker john boehner and his house gop digging in further and senator harry reid keeping on the pressure, is there any way out for the republicans who want this to end? >> this is a republican crisis right now. and the republican party is desperate to get out of the crisis of their own making. when does john boehner finally say screw you guys? >> let's dive in for the very latest details on this. we have nbc capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell and white house correspondent kristen welker standing by. kelly, let me start with you. it looks like there are about five possible scenarios or solutions that could come out of this. kelly, what are you learning is likely through today? >> reporter: one of the things that's been so difficult, thomas, in most crises we can see the leap frog of likely steps. even if there's some heat and fire in between, you sort of know where it's headed. this has been more difficult. part of what could happen is what has been requested but flatly denied. the whole idea of just simply republicans folding, passing funding for the government with
. >> with speaker john boehner and his house gop digging in further and senator harry reid keeping on the pressure, is there any way out for the republicans who want this to end? >> this is a republican crisis right now. and the republican party is desperate to get out of the crisis of their own making. when does john boehner finally say screw you guys? >> let's dive in for the very latest details on this. we have nbc capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell and white house...
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they have been a unified party, nancy pelosi, harry reid and the president, there's very little daylight between them. >> woodruff: is it inevitable the republicans are seen as the losers in this if there is a shutdown ramere? >> there is a vigorous debate among republicans on this. i think the history in '95-96, that's exactly how it was seen suggests that is how it will happen again. there is an instinctivence on the part of american public that the republicans are more antigovernment party. if somebody shuts downtown party, that's who they're going to be inclined to believe. >> woodruff: do we know whether the leadership believes that? >> i think that the-- i think that's absolutely what the house and senate republican leadership believe, and that's why they want to avoid a shutdown, but it's not what each and every one of those republican troops believe. they think 1996 went fine. republicans didn't lose the house in the '96 election. they gained senate seats in that election. >> and bill clinton became the first democrat since franklin roosevelt 60 years earlier to be re-elected, so
they have been a unified party, nancy pelosi, harry reid and the president, there's very little daylight between them. >> woodruff: is it inevitable the republicans are seen as the losers in this if there is a shutdown ramere? >> there is a vigorous debate among republicans on this. i think the history in '95-96, that's exactly how it was seen suggests that is how it will happen again. there is an instinctivence on the part of american public that the republicans are more...
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reid president obama and now some poor park ranger for what they have the republicans have done and now they're resorting to cheap theater like yelling at federal workers are passing piecemeal bills funny national parks to hide the fact that a claim continuing resolution one that would keep the government open until december fifteenth could easily pass in the house and is sitting on speaker boehner his desk right now but he won't let congress vote on it for more on this i'm joined by mike bappa tonio attorney and host a ring of fire radio about welcome back. i'm fine so what's your take on this whole randy neugebauer thing. well i mean the advantage you have with the gerrymandering the republicans have done state by state is it's you can in the house you can act is insane is you want to and not really worry about any really ramifications or repercussions the reason you have this type of this type of attitude about republicans is see back home in a place like south alabama or south georgia or south florida north she's we north florida. south louisiana when you have this type of menta
reid president obama and now some poor park ranger for what they have the republicans have done and now they're resorting to cheap theater like yelling at federal workers are passing piecemeal bills funny national parks to hide the fact that a claim continuing resolution one that would keep the government open until december fifteenth could easily pass in the house and is sitting on speaker boehner his desk right now but he won't let congress vote on it for more on this i'm joined by mike bappa...
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. >> especially when the reality is the president and harry reid both said, we are not passing something that is not a clean cr, this is a waste of time. we're all beginning to really better understand the impacts of all of this. we've talked about you know, the health problems and nih, saying they are going to turn away about 200 people a week, a number of which are children that need to be treated for cancer. it is truly heartbreaking and more than 700,000 national park employees being furloughed. this is so real and this is the time when you think, maybe they should really be negotiating right now and be on the hill having these conversations to get something done. no, today there's no formal negotiation set for today. you wonder what in the hell is going on? >> what would they be negotiating about, the thing already adjudicated and what republicans are asking for to negotiate over punching you in the face. obviously obama is not going to deal with. an negotiation is, let me offer you something you might want in response for something i might want. rather than i have the money, give m
. >> especially when the reality is the president and harry reid both said, we are not passing something that is not a clean cr, this is a waste of time. we're all beginning to really better understand the impacts of all of this. we've talked about you know, the health problems and nih, saying they are going to turn away about 200 people a week, a number of which are children that need to be treated for cancer. it is truly heartbreaking and more than 700,000 national park employees being...